The big cometary crossers (Nessus-Asbolus-Pholus), with their very open orbits crossing the solar system, are "winged". These centaurs can act like very big shadows if we are not conscious of them, or if we are the type who looks almost exclusively to the outside world, lacking inner knowledge. They tend to bring the opposites together and represent light and darkness at the same time.
In the Jim Henson movie "The Dark Crystal" (1982) there is a wonderful portrayal of the split between the luminous and the dark aspects of being, resulting in evil vultures on the one hand and dragging laggards on the other. This is clearly illustrated in the charts of many politicians.
I know that politics is a very sensitive subject to write about, but I feel that the "shadow" principle can be seen dramatically there. Because of their bi-polarity, the "evil" aspect of centaurs like Pholus and Nessus can be very strong, as if when spreading their wings they project their shadow to the external world, which, in terms of politics, is descriptive, for example, of US covert and overt involvement in wars and political upheavals outside its frontiers, mainly in Third World countries, poor, fragmented countries "in the making" that will never become whole because the big powers will not allow them to.
I know this is my subjective political interpretation,
but, what isn't? Please don't forget, when reading this, that I am speaking
from the point of view of a Central-American (I was born and live in Costa
Coming down to Pholus and Nessus, I think that they are "Neptnunian" in this respect, thinking of Neptune as our social/economic responsibility with our neighbors, of which a lot of people is not conscious. I see Bush and Reagan, for example, as representing the view that doing everything I can to foster my interests (in their case, the interests of the US) is justified, no matter the damage I inflict on other countries, i.e., "I will give billions of dollars in weapons and logistics to the anti-Sandinista resistance in Nicaragua, so that they can kill among themselves, as long as no American dies. If thousands of you die or the country is devastated with the bullets I am giving you, and the neighboring countries' traditional social structure comes to pieces, or if they starve because of my economic blockade, I don't care! but if one American dies, I'll turn the world upside down and take revenge!"
Ronald Reagan, born Feb.6, 1911, is responsible, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica, for launching "the largest peacetime military buildup in American History". He is responsible, also, for one of the most aggressive and abusive policies toward the region of Central America that was the direct cause of war, murder and hunger in Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua, and terrorist murders and cover-ups in Costa Rica not seen before in recent history. Here are his positions (birth data from R. Nolle for 1:20 a.m.):
Moon = 12,01 Taurus
in opposition to:
Jupiter = 13,44 Scorpio
and making the T-square:
Sun = 16,24 Aquarius
My feeling is that the conjunction with QM107 may not be that bad, while the Jupiter involvement seems to fit the political and economic magnitudes involved. I think that relationships like this talk by themselves and illuminate the aggressive and destructive nature of these centaurs when they are expressed in primitive ways. One can think of the charismatic actor-cowboy so popular to most Americans, which was nonetheless a predatory vulture (Pholus) to Central America.
Alzheimer's disease may be seen as "the person" being eaten
from inside little by little. I just saw in t.v. a biography of Nancy Reagan,
who uses the expression "a very long good bye". It may well be the "excess"
of centaur, the excess of shadow that swallows you. See my discussion of
this in the essay "Pholus and Immunity"
I remember a t.v. interview with now deceased King Hussein of Jordan, at the end of 1990. He was very angry, explaining how, after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, he had talked with Saddam Hussein and everything was settled for Saddam to withdraw his troops and go back to Irak in a matter of days. King Hussein was no fool, and understood much better than American politicians the situation in the region... But he was very angry because the Americans came with their demands, impositions and belligerent propaganda, not having any interest in the peaceful agreement that had been achieved. This is the chart of George Bush, this is what came (Jun 12, 1924, 11:38 AM EDT - data in R. Nolle's site):
Sun = 21,21 Gemini
No wonder Bush, former head of the CIA, invaded Panama, taking Noriega prisoner, since he was no longer bolstering the US drug-related covert operations in the region, and the psychopath or puppet had ceased to obey or to be useful, and was daring to challenge him.
For the following, this is the data used: the so-called "Independence" of _Panama_: Nov. 3, 1903, 6:00 PM LMT. Panama City, source: Jimm Erickson in "American Astrology", Sept 1990, p.60. _Colombia_: Dec 17, 1819, 12:12 P.M. LMT. 8n08/70w34, source: American Astrology April 1991 p.35. _Invasion_ and bombing of Panama by George Bush: Dec 20, 1989, 0:00 AM EST. 8n58/79w36, source: American Astrology April 1990 p.17. _George Bush_: June 12, 1924, 11:20 AM EDT. 42n15/71w05, source: American Astrology April 1990 p.18. _Official Protocol_ of the Canal returned to Panama: December 14, 1999 12 noon. approx. 8n58/71w05, source: the news today.
I have often said that Pholus is "invasion", also "predatory" (see the essay "Pholus and War"). Let's look first at the birth of Panama:
Sun = 10,22 Scorpio
Without precession=10,56 Scorpio! Now let's see the time of the invasion of Panama ordered by George Bush:
Sun = 27,05 Sag
Which is the inversion of the radix of Bush:
Sun = 21,21 Gemini
Probably, on the other side of the coin, the "lighter"
aspect of these centaurs is what makes them good politicians, popular and
with ability to entertain and to be good propagandists. There will be a
more private and "local" meaning of these aspects, probably more benign...
as long as they don't spread their shadow-wings over the rest of the world.
JOHN F. KENEDY
I would like to suggest that, with Sun/Pholus aspects in the charts of politicians, something like the "shadow" is projected to outsiders (other countries or nations in this case), becoming "vultures", invaders, in terms of how predatory their actions are for other countries. But it could also be that, when having those (or similar) aspects, the person may suffer the invasive or predatory action toward himself or herself from others...
This is of course only in terms of the dark side of Pholus. Here is an interesting one to add to the list: John F. Kenedy, May 29th 1917 at 15h EST...
Sun = 7,51 Gemini
What is the meaning of Pholus here? Is he a predator? Is he a prey? Is he joking? An angel? A devil? A hoax?. One possibility is that it could also be related to the rumors of Kenedy´s association with the Mafia and the assassination conspiracy. Pholus would fit with the whole concept of a conspiracy. From the point of view of the assassination, he certainly was "prey".
Lee-Harvey Oswald was born Oct. 18, 1939, in New Orleans; according to the Matrix celebrity database (which unfortunately never gives the source of the data), the birth-time was 9:55 p.m.:
Moon = 13,52 Cap
The Moon/Pholus conjunction seems very consistent with
the "social waste" type of person: this is how he felt. He was the incarnation
of a renegade: born after his father had died, raised by a domineering
mother, defected from the US army to Moscow, left the USSR and lived a
very marginal life, wanted to go to Cuba but was rejected by Castro...
(BTW, the Moon/Pholus conjunction is exact also by latitude, just like
in the "Son of Sam" serial killer)
MORE PHOLUS VULTURES
Here's another "vulture". I accept that, like Reagan, he is good with his own, and that he is a good person, loves children, etc. But when the shadow spreads, the result is "kill thy neighbors" and invasion:
Benjamin Netanyahu (Oct. 21, 1949 GMT 10:16):
Sun = 27,41 Libra
Augusto Pinochet was born Nov.25 1915, at 19:18 in Valparaiso (the source is personal correspondence with South American astrologers, but there is no documentary reference):
a grand trine...
and a vulture kissing him...
The recent CIA release of documentation dealing with its involvement in the military overthrow of the government of Allende in Chile in 1973 is a good illustration of Pholus. There are more documents to come, but the ones released so far show that the CIA at least played a role in the assassination of Charles Borman, right after Pinochet usurped power (there is an excellent film on this called "Missing", dir. by Costa-Gavras 1982).
If we remember the aggressive activism of Joan Baez (Sun conjunct Pholus) and the social protest of John Lennon (Sun square Pholus), we see a pattern, where the two sides of the same coin are shown:
Joan Baez was born Jan 9 1941, at 11:45 a.m. EST. She has the Sun in 19,04 Capricorn in the 10th, conjunct Mercury in 18,00 Cap and conjunct Pholus in 17,13 Cap. A triple conjunction. It is, in a way, as if she were "the voice" (Mercury) of Pholus, or of this particular position of Pholus. She incarnates Pholus."
It is interesting to note that John Lennon (OCT
09, 1940, 06:30:00 PM GMD, -01:00) was born with the Sun and Pholus in
exact square. Perhaps this made a difference, since the square produces
a splitting and a conflict. Joan Baez never had to fight with Pholus or
divide herself. All she had to do was spread her wings, her voice with
OTHER NON-PHOLUS CENTAUR DATA
All data taken from Richard Nolle's site:
Moon = 22,32 Libra
Probably this makes Kissinger a more complex subject. The Chiron aspect may be related to issues of his origins, but he is definitely Machiavellic to me. I still have to find Richard Nixon's date of death. At birth:
Sun = 19,24 Capricorn
Together with Kissinger, he was responsible, for example, for dropping more bombs on the civil population of Hanoi in only 2 weeks, than the whole bombing campaign against Germany in WWII. (For the destructive "bombing" power of TL66, please read my "Notes on TL66")
There's also an interesting pattern in J. Edgar Hoover's chart:
Sun = 10,54 Capricorn
Could it be that TL66 is related, for example to "far away" (e.g. Vietnam) and "covert" (the FBI and Hoover's "secret" sexual practices)?
Joseph McCarthy was born Nov.14, 1908, and died May 2, 1957. I always felt he was a very good centaurean candidate, but the planets at birth, without a birth time and without the Moon, didn't seem to show anything convincing to me. However, if I take a look at the positions at death, the signature emerges clearly:
Sun at birth (12 GMT) = 21,44 Scorpio
I believe that these aspects put in evidence the meaning
of both centaurs in terms of politics. Sun/1994TA, as I mentioned in the
chart of the Czarina Alexandra, is a "Rasputian" aspect.
PHOLUS AND INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS
Another standpoint from which we can understand the role of Pholus in politics and the military is intelligence surveyance, spying, and intelligence operations in general, with the lying and abuse that it involves. This corresponds to the privacy and security issues brough about by the Internet on the one hand (such as computer hacking, see "Pholus Orbit Symbolism"), and the "trickster" as well as the defense-mechanism side of Pholus on the other (see "Pholus and Immunity"), and is perfectly represented in all the examples of "predators" given here.
I would say that the personal involvement with all of this, becoming a "KGB man" or a "CIA man", is obscure and is more related to Moon/Pholus, which gives the "night stalker" and sinister "professional bastard", trickster-like dimension associated with being a spy, or with being head of operations that are predatory on other human beings, or with being a manipulative (and often very charismatic) liar.
Personally, so far at least, I do not perceive the other centaurs as charismatic. Pholus is very Neptunian, a "Neptunian projectile", i.e., a more aggressive Neptune. The charisma of Pholus is qualified, in the sense that it is usually accompanied by an equally dark side, which is why I used the term "vulture" to describe charismatic politicians --like Reagan or like Pinochet-- with an enormous shadow that is projected on "the other" and becomes very destructive --the predatory side, which is usually unconscious.
To complement these ideas, it is interesting to examine the case
of "Lawrence of Arabia".
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA
Most of us know of Lawrence of Arabia mostly from Peter
O'Toole's characterization in the film, based on T.E. Lawrence's own writings
and news releases of the time. In the 70's the "50 years secrecy" required
by British law ended and a lot of material was made available regarding
There is even a copy of a guide he himself wrote for the Secret Service about the Arab mind and how to convince the Arab chiefs that the ideas you were putting in their minds were not yours but their own. As many secret agents, he was a compulsive liar and his activities with the Arabs were not as romantic as he wanted people to think.
Anyway, he was a unique character, still a mystery today. I always felt he as well as Peter O'Toole are centaurs, homeless, tragic, and wounded, nomads in the psychological sphere. The film aptly shows Lawrence divided between his Arab friends and his loyalty to England, as a person in acute pain that could not have a family or ordinary life, who was "in-between", not knowing where he belonged.
So let's see what we can find. According to "The Secret Lives of Lawrence of Arabia" by Phillip Knightley & Colin Simpson (1971), he was born in Tremadoc in the early hours of August 16, 1888. At 2 a.m. we have:
Sun = 23,35 Leo
Moon = 11,55 Sagittarius
He died as a result of a motorcycle accident --which has been generally accepted that it was a suicide-- on May 19th, 1935, at 8:35 a.m. at Bovington Camp Hospital:
Sun = 26,46 Taurus
Moon = 8,17 Sagittarius
It is important to note that the motorcycle accident that injured him had happened 6 days earlier, so that the Sun/1995GO conjunction was in the middle of the 6-day period.
It is also no surprise that Peter O'Toole's Chiron is exactly over his Sun at death, in 27,31 Taurus (precession-corrected). O'Toole was born August 2, 1932, at 00:15 (-1h) in Wicklow, Ireland (from Richard Nolle who cites Louis Rodden's 'Astro-Data' 3, 1986):
Ascendant = 21 Taurus
Uranus = 23,23 Aries Rx.
The film's world's premiere was December 10, 1962, in London, under a Jupiter/Chiron conjunction in Pisces. The Moon that night (at 19h GMT) was in 9,10 Gemini (prec.corr.), conjunct Lawrence's Chiron at death, while Mars was in 22,18 Leo, conjunct his natal Sun.
So much for the centaurs. It is clear that Lawrence's life (and death) is related to them... but what does it mean? Let's see what Lawrence himself wrote:
Feisal [played by Alec Guinness in the 1962 film] was a brave, weak, ignorant spirit, trying to do work for which only a genius, a prophet or a freat criminal was fitted. I served him out of pity, a motive which degraded us both" [T.E Lawrence, Seven Pillars of Wisdom]--no wonder he had the Sun in Leo 23, in square with Jupiter in 27 Scorpio!
from "Twenty-Seven Articles", a manual for political officers on how to handle the Arabs that he wrote in 1917, after being with Feisal 9 months:
"Win and keep the confidence of your leader... never refuse or quash schemes he may put forward; but ensure that they are put forward in the first instance privately to you. Always approve them, and after praise modify them insensibly causing the suggestion to come from him, until they are in accord with your own opinion. When you attain this point, hold him to it, keep a tight grip of his ideas, and push him forward as firmly as possibly, but secretly so that no one but himself (and he t too clearly) is aware of your pressure"This thinking is not the friend of the Arabs and the glamorous warrior that is shown in the film. In fact, I have a feeling that it can be ascribed to the exact Sun/Pholus quincunx he had at birth. Such scheming fits well into the "trickster" symbolism of Pholus, and fits also into how his life was a total emptiness after he had retired to England, and which ended in his virtual suicide at age 46.
Intelligence operations may be a good fit for Pholus, and the best "home" for the trickster. It also shows all the "lone-wolf" and invasive associations, and can be used as a factor in the interpretation of Pholus in the charts of prominent politicians, i.e., the predatory nature of intelligenceactivity (for example, ex head of the CIA George Bush has a very tight Sun/Pholus opposition).
In the case of Lawrence, as we saw, the aspect is an exact quincunx:
Sun = 23 Leo
Pholus acts like a "drunk", a trickster. It shows a desire,
a greed, that may be absent in the other centaurs: so far the only one
that gives me the image of a vulture flying overhead is Pholus. Nessus
can be nasty and manipulative, 94TA can be cruel or gruesome, Asbolus can
become very dense and "sinful", but Pholus is intoxicated by desire and
by his own charisma.
Juan Antonio Revilla